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	<title>Comments on: Q and A:  Rotational Core Training.</title>
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	<description>No Frills Performance and Strength Training</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dd099</title>
		<link>http://www.tonygentilcore.com/2010/02/q-and-a-rotational-core-training/#comment-2819</link>
		<dc:creator>dd099</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good post: it will avoid some people to injure themselves</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good post: it will avoid some people to injure themselves</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Gentilcore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Gentilcore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Callum,

You don't need to be too aggressive with the loading, actually.  Typically, I'd say with start most people in the 20-40 lb range, depending on their fitness level.  Progressions include:

Increasing the load, obviously
Narrowing your stance
Split stance and tall kneeling variations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Callum,</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to be too aggressive with the loading, actually.  Typically, I&#8217;d say with start most people in the 20-40 lb range, depending on their fitness level.  Progressions include:</p>
<p>Increasing the load, obviously<br />
Narrowing your stance<br />
Split stance and tall kneeling variations</p>
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		<title>By: Callum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Callum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

What sort of load do you guys use on the Pallof Press?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>What sort of load do you guys use on the Pallof Press?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Tracy Anderson treadmill wannabe, great comedy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6ZswxBLfY&#38;feature=player_embedded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Tracy Anderson treadmill wannabe, great comedy<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6ZswxBLfY&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP6ZswxBLfY&amp;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Gentilcore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Gentilcore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 01:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PJ,

VERY solid point! Nick Tumminello had a post on that exact same thing last week, I believe.  Why can't I ever remember to mention these things when I write a half-way decent post???  You're always  making me look bad....;O)  Thanks for reminding me (and my other readers)  

Dave,

To be honest, I'm MUCH more a fan of the rotary (anti-rotation) variations than I am the actual rotational ones.  I tend to program both chops and lifts equally, however.  No real set preference towards either one.  As well, I'll generally start people in the half kneeling position, and then progress them to "tall" kneeling (both knees).  

In terms of the rotational specific variations, again, I don't have any set preference towards a chop or lift.  I will say, though, that I do tend to program lift variations before chops.  Not really sure why, I just do.  How's that for a scientific answer?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PJ,</p>
<p>VERY solid point! Nick Tumminello had a post on that exact same thing last week, I believe.  Why can&#8217;t I ever remember to mention these things when I write a half-way decent post???  You&#8217;re always  making me look bad&#8230;.;O)  Thanks for reminding me (and my other readers)  </p>
<p>Dave,</p>
<p>To be honest, I&#8217;m MUCH more a fan of the rotary (anti-rotation) variations than I am the actual rotational ones.  I tend to program both chops and lifts equally, however.  No real set preference towards either one.  As well, I&#8217;ll generally start people in the half kneeling position, and then progress them to &#8220;tall&#8221; kneeling (both knees).  </p>
<p>In terms of the rotational specific variations, again, I don&#8217;t have any set preference towards a chop or lift.  I will say, though, that I do tend to program lift variations before chops.  Not really sure why, I just do.  How&#8217;s that for a scientific answer?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Chipit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Chipit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

When it comes to rotational training with an emphasis on the T-Spine, do you tend to favor lifts versus chops, or would that skewing mostly apply to someone with a tendency towards some degree of excessive kyphosis? In an ideal world, a balance of both would probably be best, but I am just curious if you notice any patterns in terms of how often you find yourself programming one versus the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>When it comes to rotational training with an emphasis on the T-Spine, do you tend to favor lifts versus chops, or would that skewing mostly apply to someone with a tendency towards some degree of excessive kyphosis? In an ideal world, a balance of both would probably be best, but I am just curious if you notice any patterns in terms of how often you find yourself programming one versus the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mosley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mosley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

This is very timely as I have a buddy who's looking for tips on improving his swing for softball.  His current workout includes rotational training which I was a bit inclined to urge against in favor for Pallof Presses and the like.  Your last paragraph addresses this.  I need to point him in the direction of some thoracic mobility stuff although I'm not sure about how to get him the right training for the mechanics of the swing.  I'm in a different city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>This is very timely as I have a buddy who&#8217;s looking for tips on improving his swing for softball.  His current workout includes rotational training which I was a bit inclined to urge against in favor for Pallof Presses and the like.  Your last paragraph addresses this.  I need to point him in the direction of some thoracic mobility stuff although I&#8217;m not sure about how to get him the right training for the mechanics of the swing.  I&#8217;m in a different city.</p>
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		<title>By: P. J. Striet</title>
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		<dc:creator>P. J. Striet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Tony. In regards to rotary training, I think it's also good to point out that there is a difference between lumbar rotation and hip internal rotation. I use a traditional resisted standing torso rotation (pulley set at chest height)both personally and with my clients, but the emphasis is on the hips, chest and head moving as one unit. The inside heel and knee lifts and pivots and the hip internally rotates during the movement: this is in stark contrast to the manner in which most people perform this exercise where they just keep both feet flat on the ground and their hips stay still (spine wrecker in my opinion).

I also actually use this exercise as an assessment tool to look for hip internal rotation deficits: if the foot on the outside plant leg starts to flare out, it tells me the individual is lacking. 

On a side note, back before I had any idea what I was doing (but boy I thought I did), my training partner and I used to perform negative only-using the entire weight stack-seated torso rotations on a medx machine. How I didn't blow out a disc is beyond me: our hips were completely fixed and it was all through the lumbar. We'd do like 2 sets of 6 (8 second eccentric reps). To be young and dumb! :)

PJ Striet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Tony. In regards to rotary training, I think it&#8217;s also good to point out that there is a difference between lumbar rotation and hip internal rotation. I use a traditional resisted standing torso rotation (pulley set at chest height)both personally and with my clients, but the emphasis is on the hips, chest and head moving as one unit. The inside heel and knee lifts and pivots and the hip internally rotates during the movement: this is in stark contrast to the manner in which most people perform this exercise where they just keep both feet flat on the ground and their hips stay still (spine wrecker in my opinion).</p>
<p>I also actually use this exercise as an assessment tool to look for hip internal rotation deficits: if the foot on the outside plant leg starts to flare out, it tells me the individual is lacking. </p>
<p>On a side note, back before I had any idea what I was doing (but boy I thought I did), my training partner and I used to perform negative only-using the entire weight stack-seated torso rotations on a medx machine. How I didn&#8217;t blow out a disc is beyond me: our hips were completely fixed and it was all through the lumbar. We&#8217;d do like 2 sets of 6 (8 second eccentric reps). To be young and dumb! :)</p>
<p>PJ Striet</p>
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