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	<title>Comments on: When Foam Rolling Just Won&#8217;t Cut It</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kathy Ekdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Ekdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would marry Nate Tiplady if it weren't for the fact I am already married. I had my first ART/Graston session with Nate Monday-and when I got off the table- it was like I was reborn. :)
I had no idea how screwed up my hips had gotten. I have been making the rounds of PT's MT's, chiros, trying to find the answer to my back/hip and lateral thigh pain. Found it! Despite the agony, I'm going back next week.  I may propose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would marry Nate Tiplady if it weren&#8217;t for the fact I am already married. I had my first ART/Graston session with Nate Monday-and when I got off the table- it was like I was reborn. :)<br />
I had no idea how screwed up my hips had gotten. I have been making the rounds of PT&#8217;s MT&#8217;s, chiros, trying to find the answer to my back/hip and lateral thigh pain. Found it! Despite the agony, I&#8217;m going back next week.  I may propose.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Gentilcore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Gentilcore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who the hell is this Eric Cressey guy?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the hell is this Eric Cressey guy?????</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Cressey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Cressey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len,

As a general rule of thumb, Graston tends to be better for more "diffuse" soft tissue restrictions, whereas ART would be more focal in nature (e.g., the musculotendinous junction).  It would be very hard to ART an entire adductor or ITB, but the Graston tools allow one to cover a lot of surface area efficiently.  Graston's also good for saving the manual therapist's hands over time as well, and many folks like the feedback that the tools give with respect to tissue quality.

That said, there are just some places (e.g., subscapularis) that only a thumb can get to - and that thumb may also be useful for pinning down a structure as the individual getting treated goes through an active range of motion.

Hope this helps!

Eric
www.EricCressey.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len,</p>
<p>As a general rule of thumb, Graston tends to be better for more &#8220;diffuse&#8221; soft tissue restrictions, whereas ART would be more focal in nature (e.g., the musculotendinous junction).  It would be very hard to ART an entire adductor or ITB, but the Graston tools allow one to cover a lot of surface area efficiently.  Graston&#8217;s also good for saving the manual therapist&#8217;s hands over time as well, and many folks like the feedback that the tools give with respect to tissue quality.</p>
<p>That said, there are just some places (e.g., subscapularis) that only a thumb can get to - and that thumb may also be useful for pinning down a structure as the individual getting treated goes through an active range of motion.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
<p>Eric<br />
<a href="http://www.EricCressey.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.EricCressey.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off Tony, the guns are looking a bit small in that pic. Obviously your t-shirt is waaaay too big, a smaller a t-shirt and the guns turn into cannons.

Secondly, the greatest thing about being an osteopathy student is the free treatments at any time :)

Thirdly, in place of grenades, what would you recommend as a the next step after a foam roller? PVC or something more hardcore? I'm all for hardcore. I did hammer curls and semi-supinated chins in the same workout, talk about brachioradialis development. That is hardcore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off Tony, the guns are looking a bit small in that pic. Obviously your t-shirt is waaaay too big, a smaller a t-shirt and the guns turn into cannons.</p>
<p>Secondly, the greatest thing about being an osteopathy student is the free treatments at any time :)</p>
<p>Thirdly, in place of grenades, what would you recommend as a the next step after a foam roller? PVC or something more hardcore? I&#8217;m all for hardcore. I did hammer curls and semi-supinated chins in the same workout, talk about brachioradialis development. That is hardcore.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Shaktar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Shaktar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Tony.

When you have Nate come into the facility, do you guys pay him for a certain amount of his time, and then he will work on anyone in need of it, or does he come in and then people pay him individually? I've been wondering about how this might work, as I'd like to make arrangements with a local professional to come into my facility from time to time.

I'm also wondering how often you, Eric, and Brian find yourself getting some work like this done, as you guys are clearly on the "not jacked up" end of the spectrum but certainly can benefit from a performance standpoint, given that the ability to train more intensely (coupled with a demanding coaching schedule) can leave you with areas that would benefit from some focused work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Tony.</p>
<p>When you have Nate come into the facility, do you guys pay him for a certain amount of his time, and then he will work on anyone in need of it, or does he come in and then people pay him individually? I&#8217;ve been wondering about how this might work, as I&#8217;d like to make arrangements with a local professional to come into my facility from time to time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also wondering how often you, Eric, and Brian find yourself getting some work like this done, as you guys are clearly on the &#8220;not jacked up&#8221; end of the spectrum but certainly can benefit from a performance standpoint, given that the ability to train more intensely (coupled with a demanding coaching schedule) can leave you with areas that would benefit from some focused work.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lauren:  I've taken to using the tube piece from the indo board at my gym (I'm always looking for ways to put the crappy stuff to good use.)  It's a little grippier than pvc pipe, so you don't slip as much if you're sweating or rolling over clothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lauren:  I&#8217;ve taken to using the tube piece from the indo board at my gym (I&#8217;m always looking for ways to put the crappy stuff to good use.)  It&#8217;s a little grippier than pvc pipe, so you don&#8217;t slip as much if you&#8217;re sweating or rolling over clothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um...yikes.
I got The Stick, at the behest of my massage therapist, and like it so far. More intense than a foam roller, but no bruises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um&#8230;yikes.<br />
I got The Stick, at the behest of my massage therapist, and like it so far. More intense than a foam roller, but no bruises.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Gilmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Gilmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

I've never seen any discussion as to what would make Graston the more appropriate choice in a given situation than ART, or vice versa. Usually the stock answer is a safe and less-than-informative "they both work, just get some done". But this tends to evade the primary question, namely what makes one the "better" choice for certain situations.

The other reason I am curious is because I have had ART performed on me, but never Graston. And not once have I ended up with any significant "war wounds"/bruising. But with people raving about Graston, there's go to be more than a little something to it, even if bruising like that would be apt to raise an arched eyebrow in the uninitiated.

If you have any thoughts on what the right "situational" choice for soft tissue therapy is in different types of situations, it would be great to hear them. Of course, this can also extend beyond just Graston and ART. I don't doubt the efficacy of any given modality, I am merely curious which ones may be the most appropriate and effective within a given context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen any discussion as to what would make Graston the more appropriate choice in a given situation than ART, or vice versa. Usually the stock answer is a safe and less-than-informative &#8220;they both work, just get some done&#8221;. But this tends to evade the primary question, namely what makes one the &#8220;better&#8221; choice for certain situations.</p>
<p>The other reason I am curious is because I have had ART performed on me, but never Graston. And not once have I ended up with any significant &#8220;war wounds&#8221;/bruising. But with people raving about Graston, there&#8217;s go to be more than a little something to it, even if bruising like that would be apt to raise an arched eyebrow in the uninitiated.</p>
<p>If you have any thoughts on what the right &#8220;situational&#8221; choice for soft tissue therapy is in different types of situations, it would be great to hear them. Of course, this can also extend beyond just Graston and ART. I don&#8217;t doubt the efficacy of any given modality, I am merely curious which ones may be the most appropriate and effective within a given context.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graston is a life saver for me - to the point where I looked into purchasing a set for home use (decided that was a bad idea).  And, too, I keep having to chuck foam rollers for getting too soft and squishy.  Do you know if the foam roller from trigger point is any better?  http://store.tptherapy.com/product_p/tpt-grd.htm  I love their massage ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graston is a life saver for me - to the point where I looked into purchasing a set for home use (decided that was a bad idea).  And, too, I keep having to chuck foam rollers for getting too soft and squishy.  Do you know if the foam roller from trigger point is any better?  <a href="http://store.tptherapy.com/product_p/tpt-grd.htm" rel="nofollow">http://store.tptherapy.com/product_p/tpt-grd.htm</a>  I love their massage ball.</p>
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